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	<title>Comments on: The Case for Ben Reilly, Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Kirr</title>
		<link>http://www.spideydude.com/2010/01/19/the-case-for-ben-reilly-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with most everything you&#039;re saying - Ben and Peter&#039;s interaction in the opening of Revelation alone was such a nice hint of what could have been if Ben had been allowed to live. 

But I maintain to this day, the main problem wasn&#039;t really anything you talked about (you only hinted at it in one of your points, but didn&#039;t really tackle it head on) - the problem was the people behind this saga had to insist that Ben was the original. That the Peter we had been reading about for years was in fact the clone. That was the galling part - and the only way to reverse that stupid decision was to kill Ben and show him as a clone falling apart. Had they been willing to call Ben the clone from day one, accept that and then have him work on his own for awhile - you could have had a nice set up for some future return of Peter to the role of Spidey, advisor to Ben for some time, multiple books that feature one or the other - stories of a single spidey like they seemed intent on doing (by eventually forcing it through BND)...

all because they had to claim Peter was the clone and Ben was the original. Worked out well, didn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with most everything you&#8217;re saying &#8211; Ben and Peter&#8217;s interaction in the opening of Revelation alone was such a nice hint of what could have been if Ben had been allowed to live. </p>
<p>But I maintain to this day, the main problem wasn&#8217;t really anything you talked about (you only hinted at it in one of your points, but didn&#8217;t really tackle it head on) &#8211; the problem was the people behind this saga had to insist that Ben was the original. That the Peter we had been reading about for years was in fact the clone. That was the galling part &#8211; and the only way to reverse that stupid decision was to kill Ben and show him as a clone falling apart. Had they been willing to call Ben the clone from day one, accept that and then have him work on his own for awhile &#8211; you could have had a nice set up for some future return of Peter to the role of Spidey, advisor to Ben for some time, multiple books that feature one or the other &#8211; stories of a single spidey like they seemed intent on doing (by eventually forcing it through BND)&#8230;</p>
<p>all because they had to claim Peter was the clone and Ben was the original. Worked out well, didn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blyth</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Ben could have never replaced Peter Parker as Spider-Man for one simple reason: Peter Parker’s story of how he became Spider-Man is brilliant&lt;

But Peter&#039;s story isnt completly defined by his origin, indeed it&#039;s only a couple of pages in a 1962 comic, everything else dropped into his lap was the everyman journey of optimisum and hope. Yes, Peter&#039;s story is the most inspirational of all comic book plotlines, but Ben is the hard-to-fit-in morality play that Marvel have been wanting to give Spidey since the 1990s and havent suceeded in applying to Peter because his character reallisticly can&#039;t be a hard luck hero, he&#039;s too good for that...the guy appeared on JOHNNY FRICKIN&#039; CARSON FOR GOD&#039;S SAKE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Ben could have never replaced Peter Parker as Spider-Man for one simple reason: Peter Parker’s story of how he became Spider-Man is brilliant&lt;</p>
<p>But Peter&#039;s story isnt completly defined by his origin, indeed it&#039;s only a couple of pages in a 1962 comic, everything else dropped into his lap was the everyman journey of optimisum and hope. Yes, Peter&#039;s story is the most inspirational of all comic book plotlines, but Ben is the hard-to-fit-in morality play that Marvel have been wanting to give Spidey since the 1990s and havent suceeded in applying to Peter because his character reallisticly can&#039;t be a hard luck hero, he&#039;s too good for that&#8230;the guy appeared on JOHNNY FRICKIN&#039; CARSON FOR GOD&#039;S SAKE</p>
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		<title>By: spidertour02</title>
		<link>http://www.spideydude.com/2010/01/19/the-case-for-ben-reilly-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>spidertour02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aspman: Yes, it is ... but perhaps more symbolically than anything else.  The Kravinoffs are killing all the spider-based characters, so they threw as many as they could fit on the cover. 

I&#039;m more annoyed with the fact they they seem to be bringing Kraven back from the dead, which will annoy the hell out of me if it happens ... but that&#039;s not a rant that belongs on this site.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aspman: Yes, it is &#8230; but perhaps more symbolically than anything else.  The Kravinoffs are killing all the spider-based characters, so they threw as many as they could fit on the cover. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m more annoyed with the fact they they seem to be bringing Kraven back from the dead, which will annoy the hell out of me if it happens &#8230; but that&#8217;s not a rant that belongs on this site.  <img src='http://www.spideydude.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aspman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could that be Ben on the cover of this solit for April????
http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=14676
No description, but, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could that be Ben on the cover of this solit for April????<br />
<a href="http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=14676" rel="nofollow">http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=14676</a><br />
No description, but, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: spidertour02</title>
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		<dc:creator>spidertour02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mystery-Man: Ben&#039;s origin IS a little silly, but it&#039;s not like it has to be brought up all that much.  ;)

@Nova#1: That&#039;s a great point, and one that I never considered.  Ben operating out of another large city could have been very interesting.  The key would be that it would require a legitimate reason for him to be in that other city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mystery-Man: Ben&#8217;s origin IS a little silly, but it&#8217;s not like it has to be brought up all that much.  <img src='http://www.spideydude.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Nova#1: That&#8217;s a great point, and one that I never considered.  Ben operating out of another large city could have been very interesting.  The key would be that it would require a legitimate reason for him to be in that other city.</p>
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		<title>By: Nova#1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nova#1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should&#039;ve kept Ben around. What I always wanted to happen was for Ben to just be moved to another city...with the occasional cross-over story with Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should&#8217;ve kept Ben around. What I always wanted to happen was for Ben to just be moved to another city&#8230;with the occasional cross-over story with Peter.</p>
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